Condition and supposition

~たところで

even if; no matter how much ... (it is useless)

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How to form it

  • Verb (た-form) + ところで + negative or pessimistic result

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Explanation

Says that even if you do something, the result will be negative or the effort will be pointless.

The speaker doubts the effort will help. Often used with いくら, 今更 and どんなに.

Examples

  1. 今から急いだところで、もう間に合わない。

    いまからいそいだところで、もうまにあわない。

    Even if we hurry now, we won't make it.

  2. 彼に頼んだところで、断られるだけだ。

    かれにたのんだところで、ことわられるだけだ。

    Even if I ask him, I'll just be turned down.

  3. いくら説明したところで、理解してもらえないだろう。

    いくらせつめいしたところで、りかいしてもらえないだろう。

    No matter how much I explain, he probably won't understand.

Compare with

  • ~たところ: たところ reports a result that was discovered; たところで says that an action is futile.

Common mistakes

  • Following it with a hopeful result. The second clause must be negative.